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FIREARMS INFORMATION
The following is an excerpt from a Remington 1902 catalog.
On the reciever on the right side of the reciever is the name baker gun company, on the left side are the words batavia leader. On the barrels are the letters llh underneath the forearm. The serial number is 3603F. The barrels are 30 inches long. Also on the 1894 especially on later gun's sometimes there is a 'P' ahead of the serial number, The 'P' signifies the 1894. On the 1900 sometimes there is a 'Q' ahead of the serial number, the 'Q' signifies the model 1900. I'm looking for any info I could get on a Baker Damascus Double Barrel w/ Serial #8XX. It appears to be an old Stevens 16? Gauge hammer less double barrel. The barrel at the end measure.680.690 and the length is 30 inches. There are no manufacturer markings whatsoever on the receiver or barrel. The guy at the gun show took it apart and the serial number on the inside reads 35762 and it matches the same number on the wood. 'New Baker' by Syracuse Gun and Forging Co Batavia NY 12 gauge damascus double barrel shotgun. Serial number 5073. 32' barrels with good damascus finish. Metal parts have a light gray patina overall with some scattered areas of light pitting. Stocks are good with an especially attractive grain to the butt, showing average wear and use with most. Baker batavia leader 12ga 28” f/m, 80% barrels with a couple of dings in the right barrel, 70% case colors, receiver has some frosting on the right side, solid wood showing its use. (read more) Gun #: 935021486.
N O T I C E
For guidance of customers ordering double gun parts, we give the following information :
The Remington Double Gun has been made in six models, known as HAMMER LIFTER ACTION, LIFTER ACTION, MODEL '82, MODEL '83, MODEL '85, AND '87. AND MODEL '89,
many parts of which differ. Parties owning guns can determine their model by comparing their hammers with the following drawings:
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HAMMER LIFTER ACTION - LIFTER ACTION - MODEL 1882 - MODEL 1885 AND 1887 - MODEL 1889
The above illustrations taken from an old Remington 1902 parts catalog
REMINGTON DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN SERIAL NUMBERS
Courtesy of Roy Gunther, William M. Furnish & Charles G. Semmer as published in THE GUN REPORT, July & August 1991
Remington never used the year of the first production as a model number, however it has since become common practice to do so. The language used here ARE the first year of production for each named type.
M1873 or 'hammer lifter model' used a lever on the tang that lifted up to open the barrels and draw the hammers back to half cock. The lockplate had 3 screws at the rear, made in 10 & 12 gauges.
M1876 or 'lifter model' had the lifter opening the barrels. Hammers were rebounding. First was the recessed hammer noses, & later flat. Four screws at the end of the lockplate, made in 10 & 12 gauges. The 1873 & 1876 were available in shotgun and rifle & shotgun combinations.
M1878 or :heavy duck gun'; lockplate had flat faced hammers, no rudimentary fence at the bottom of the bolster & used a doll's head rib
extension into the frame. First pinned forearms were used, later Deely & Edge latch was used. 10 gauge only.
M1882, for the first time a conventional turning lever to open the barrel was used. Made in 10 & 12 gauges.
M1883 was introduced into the catalogs, but few have been observed. The hammers are different, made in 10 & 12 gauges.
M1885-87, used the same serial numbers as the 1882 model. The hammer was again different. Made in 10, 12 & 16 gauges.
M1889, the last & largest volume made of the hammer guns, & the hammer was again different & significant than all the rest. Made in 10, 12, & 16 gauges.
Other gathered information
Shotguns were evolving fairly quickly during the years E. Remington & Sons were building them with new models appearing every year or two. The early E. Remington & Sons hammer guns were based on the Whitmore designed 'lifter action' to open the guns. The first model was the 1873 also known as the 'hammer lifter' as the locks didn't automatically rebound and protrusions on the side of the slide that moved back between the hammers when the lifter was raised engaged flanges on the sides of the hammers and moved them to half-cock. The next model the 1875 did away with this and featured Hepburn's designed rebounding locks, as did all the later Remington hammer doubles.
More variations of the basic Whitworth design were the Models 1876, 1878 and 1879. The 1879 is the only lifter action Remington that got the new Deeley lever forearm.
The next E. Remington & Sons hammer double was the 1882 with a conventional top lever that pushed to the right. These evolved through the 1883, 1885 and 1887.
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Remington made hammer double barrels from 1874 to 1910. The quick way to different between year models is by hammer shape and serial numbers.
The serial numbers run as follows:
Mode 1874 (Hammer Lifter) 001 to 1,500.
Model 1876 (Lifter Action) 1,501 to 4.125+.
Model 1882/1883 001 to 15,000.
Model 1885 15,001 to 21,000.
Model 1887 30,001 to 36,000.
Model 1889 001 to 250, 401+.
There were seven grades of Model 1889 shotguns made. They were No. 1-steel barrel, pistol grip stock, rubber butt plate and matted to rib, no engraving. No. 2 same except for twist barrel, No. 3 same except for damascus barrel. No. 4 same except for engraving. No. 5 Fine damascus and extra engraving. No. 6 Extra Fine damascus and scroll engraving and No. 7 Superior damascus and extra fine scroll engraving.
M1894, was the first hammerless, made in 10, 12, & 16 gauges. Could have been had in 'ordnance or damascus steel barrels. This model has a Purdey forend fastener (push button type)
M1900, hammerless, made in 12 & 16 gauges. Could have been had in 'ordnance or damascus steel barrels. This model has the snap on Baker type forend fastener.
| MODEL | SERIAL NUMBER | YEARS |
| 1873 | 1-5600 | 1873-1878 |
| 1876 | 1-5900 | 1876-1882 |
| 1878 | 1-2200 | 1878-1882 |
| 1882 | 1000 - 2000 | 1882-1887 |
| 1883 | 14,000 - 16,000 | 1883-1884 |
| 1885/87 | 17,000 - 24,000 | 1885/87-1889 |
| 1889 | 24,000 - 265,000 (skipped most of 100,000 series) | 1889-1900 |
| 1894 | 100,000 - 140,700 | 1894-1910 |
| 1900 | 300,000 - 395,000 | 1900-1910 |
Differences in Remington model 1894 & 1900 double shotguns.
Courtesy of Terry Deem
The 1894 was more of a precision fit gun & could be had as an engraved version. The 1900 was basically an 'economy' version of the 1894.
Before 1906 both the 1894 & 1900 models had the firing pin made integral on the hammers. Around 1906 Remington made the change to the floating firing pin on both guns. It was a running change so there is no exact serial number.
The best way to tell the two model's apart is by the serial numbers. The model 1894 serial number's start with a (1) and the model 1900 serial number's start with a (3). All have 6 number's in the serial number. So if the serial number start's with a (3) it is a model 1900. Also on the 1894 especially on later gun's sometimes there is a 'P' ahead of the serial number, The 'P' signifies the 1894. On the 1900 sometimes there is a 'Q' ahead of the serial number, the 'Q' signifies the model 1900.
As far as the receiver parts go about the only difference is fit and finish between the 1894 and the 1900.
Another difference is the 1894 has a Purdey forend fastener (push button) and the 1900 has the snap on Baker type forend fastener.
Gun's with flat ribs will be earlier guns, & will usually have the firing pin's as part of the hammer. Also, if either the 1894 or 1900 model has a concave rib (not flat) and /or one screw in the trigger guard (not two) and /or a concave safety it will almost always have the floating firing pin's. The changes to the floating firing pin was around 1906.
Also on both models the 1894 and 1900, there is the 1894 patent date on the forend iron.
For the model 1900, they did away with the point on top of the buttplate and went to a cheaper straighter buttplate.
I have collected Remington model 1894 and 1900 double for over 40 years. I also do repair and restoration on them. Thanks for allowing me to explain.
Terry Deem (Terry.Deem@gepex.ge.com) (sorry, but this e-mail is no longer valid)
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